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  2014 Convention Audio available?

  by gbrn in

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  i was wondering if anyone is aware of any recordings of the convention as of yet?

  i know its relatively early, so i may just have to wait.

  just curious if anyone had a copy yet.. thanks!.

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  (Thanks sir82 !!)

  I wonder how long that username/password combo will remain current? Especially if tons of 'postates start watching it.

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  COBE cannot be 80 or more

  by fader77 in

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  a new letter no longer allows an elder to be cobe if hes 80 or more.

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  This is my first post

  by Make Lemonade in

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  i wanted to express appreciation to the members of this forum.

  there are resources here that are deep.

  like we heard from the stage, "what is your depth and breadth of bible knowledge?

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  Sorry I didn't get here approx 24 hours ago to weigh in the most important issue here.....

  .....the PORK CHOPS!!

  Even though your wife said they turned out great, here's something to think about for future pork fests:

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  http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20110525/cooking-temperatures-for-pork

  May 25, 2011 -- Just in time for the start of grilling season, the U.S. Department of Agriculture has updated guidelines for safely preparing pork. The USDA recommends that pork be cooked to an internal temperature of 145 degrees Fahrenheit.

  The federal agency says it is lowering the recommended safe cooking temperature for whole cuts of pork from 160 degrees to 145 degrees and adding a 3-minute rest time.

  That temperature should be measured with a food thermometer placed in the thickest part of the meat, then allowing the meat to sit for three minutes before carving or eating.

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  Welcome to JWN. I've really enjoyed your posts so far.

  Best regards,

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  NEW BOE LETTER - It just got exponentially harder to "fade"

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  here is the text of the letter:.

  february 2, 2014. .

  your brothers,.

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  Are we here for each other ? To support each other ? through crisis ?

  by smiddy in

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  2. friends

  a poster who joined this site some five years ago , luo bou to , and offered his two cents worth , so to speak , about his experinces , and spiralling downfall to his marriage and faith and how it had left him , posted a number of posts ?

  about his journey ?

  and gained a great deal of satisfaction and solidarity from this site.. use the search engine for his previous posts .

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  Wishing you strength and healing Luo.

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  Are you complicit if you stay in?

  by mrhhome in

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  2. friends

  i am going to throw down the gaunlet.

  those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the jehovah witness organization.

  while i am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the jw enables the organization.. some of you may remember my story.

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  Open mind

  One size does NOT fit all.

  Have fun with your black and white worldview.

  Glad this isn't 7-8 years ago when I awakened to TTATT as a 3rd gen elder married to a true-believing 3rd gen JW wife contemplating what to do.

  If I'd taken your advice I'd have lost my wife and kids for sure.

  Instead I took the advice of "Amazing" (Jay Walters a former poster on here and on Freeminds) and fought from the inside playing the double agent for about 3 years until enough of my "seeds" finally took root in my wife's psyche.

  Now we're all out.

  Is that the ONLY RIGHT WAY TO DO IT? Hell no.

  But it worked for our situation. C'est la vie.

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  The List, by "Prominent Bethelite"

  by morloc in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i occasionally pop through here to catch up on the latest, but this time i'm going to pop my own post on here.. some of you internet oldsters may even remember this.

  my first experience on the internet regarding discussions about jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower took place on a now-obscure usenet group, before i eventually stumbled across hourglass2.. during those days, there was a poster who went by the name "prominent bethelite," an otherwise anonymous individual whom i remember most for an extensive, exhaustive compilation of date-oriented remarks, predictions, and expectations by the watchtower organization down through the decades of its history.. it became known as "the list" and it's definitely lengthy... but a fascination look at the abundance of errant statements made through the watchtower's history.. if you're curious, it's been available for a long time on hourglass2's site, and can be seen using the link provided below.. the list, compiled by prominent bethelite (1999).

  that's about it for this stop through here.

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  QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage

  by wisdomfrombelow in

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  2. bible

  the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.

  they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.

  perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.

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  And perhaps the WT's greatest Vizzini imitation was with regard to the resurrection of the residents of Sodom.

  If memory serves, they have taken TEN different arbitrary stances on this earth-shattering topic.

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  QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.

  they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.

  perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.

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  Did the GB ever receive new light without the passage of time forcing it upon them?

  by Zoos in

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  2. beliefs

  1914 did not bring the end they were hoping for so new light shone down from above and corrected their understanding.. 1925 also led to unfulfilled expectations and so new light was bestowed.. .

  (i could go through all the dates and expectations... but i won't.).

  what if the new light about 1914 being the year that christ returned was provided before 1914?

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  For me, one of the strongest bits of evidence that the whole "new light" concept was fatally flawed was in regard to whether or not the residents of Sodom would receive a resurrection.

  Last time I checked there's not a huge contingency of long lost relatives of those who were destroyed in Sodom who are banging on the Governing Body's doors begging that they get a resurrection. It's one of those theological questions that's fairly academic and most people probably won't get too worked up about it either way.

  But the Watchtower has flip-flopped on this question TEN(count 'em) TEN times. There was no time pressure on the WT to make these flip-flops. It was just stupid.

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